what happened to the battle line? - Guild Wars Forums

storm of daeth · Aug 15, 2006, 08:13 PM // 20:13

Over the period of last night (like 9 hours) the battle line shoved extremely far into luxon territory taking cities such as Eredon Terrace among others and is just getting farther. Is it possible for the kurzicks to win enough battles in 1 night to push it that far or is it just a glitch?

TheYellowKid · Aug 15, 2006, 08:19 PM // 20:19

dunno, i played about 10 - 15 AB matches and lost 2 at Etneran so i was surprised to see we got pushed back further. Also at Kaanai the gates at the start have gaps where the kurzicks spawn so they can cap the shrine at the top plus once out they can head to the other shrines before the time is up.. My suspicions of a.net being kurzicks doesnt seem to be unfounded lol

Xx Invictus xX · Aug 15, 2006, 08:23 PM // 20:23

i think giving kurzicks those shrines is intentional

http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Kaanai_Canyon

Bane of Worlds · Aug 15, 2006, 08:23 PM // 20:23

the whole line shift has caused a huge uproar in most Luxon towns and it's sickening to see the pointless arguements being thrown etc..

anyways it's odd that the shift was drastic

Numa Pompilius · Aug 15, 2006, 08:26 PM // 20:26

Wow, the entire south side of the map is taken, all the way to Seafarers Rest!

The "momentum bonus" ANet implemented must be pretty significant!

TheMosesPHD · Aug 15, 2006, 08:27 PM // 20:27

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Originally Posted by Eve The Sorceress

the whole line shift has caused a huge uproar in most Luxon towns and it's sickening to see the pointless arguements being thrown etc..

anyways it's odd that the shift was drastic

Seriously? Are you saying the entire Luxon territory turned into a giant Random Arena-style debate house?

Is it still going on? I don't wanna check myself because I can't stand Random Arena debates.

Xenex Xclame · Aug 15, 2006, 10:05 PM // 22:05

Disregard this post as someone said, i saw that i was wrong :|

storm of daeth · Aug 15, 2006, 10:41 PM // 22:41

so pretty much all the luxons need to do to to take bwack there territory si to farm kurzick and luxon points?.

AW Lore · Aug 15, 2006, 10:43 PM // 22:43

xenex, you cant earn or farm luxon faction if you are a kurzick guild, yes you can get luxon faction as an individual, but if your guild is kurzick allied you cannot give it to the faction transfer.

reason why you see the towns owned by kurzick people is because they are now (for the moment) in kurzick territory.

and yes the line has been moved due to the alliance battles.

TheYellowKid · Aug 15, 2006, 10:58 PM // 22:58

my point about those shrines at the top is that the gates dont work by the rez shrines and you can walk around them to cap the middle shrine before the gates open.. giving an advantage to the kurzicks

Swinging Fists · Aug 15, 2006, 11:11 PM // 23:11

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Originally Posted by Xenex Xclame

The line hasnt shifted like this because kurzick have won a lott, it has shifter because some kurzick alliances have come up with the idea to go farm luxon points, to get as much as they can to take over luxon cities, when you click on the towns youll see they are owned by the kurzicks.

Smart move, too bad A-net didnt tell us about this and surprised nobody thought of this earlier.

BTW Cavalon and Zos Shivros Channel can not be taken over , no matter how much luxon points the kurzicks get, it is automaticly awarded to the alliance with the most points.

So solution? go farm points take those towns back, and take over some kurzick towns while were at it.

Disregard the above quoted material. No personal offense to you, Xenex, but you have no clue as to the game mechanic.

The blue and red line is positioned based on the outcome of alliance battles over each 3 hour period. I'm not sure if Jade Quarry and Fort Aspenwood factor in, but I don't think they do. When Kurzicks win more, the line moves into Luxon territory, and cities that are normally Luxon become part of Kurzick territory and are then under the control of Kurzick alliances. So, instead of each alliance having 8 cities to control ( I didn't count them), the Kurzicks may have 12 and the Luxons only 4. So, the top 12 Kurzick alliances get to control cities, instead of the normal 8. This has absolutely nothing to do with Kurzick alliances figuring out to farm Luxon points. Fact is, a Kurzick-aligned guild CANNOT receive Luxon faction transfers. The only way for a Kurzick alliance to to control a town is to have enough Kurzick faction transferred to it to place it within the top however many cities are under Kurzick control.

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Originally Posted by Xx Invictus xX

i think giving kurzicks those shrines is intentional

I can nearly positively assure you that it is NOT intentional. The deeper the line is in Luxon territory, the more advantage the Luxons are supposed to have on that map, and vice versa. If the line is deep in Luxon territory, which it is now, and the Kurzicks have such an advantage, it is something ANet will be fixing very soon. It is NOT intentional.

Numa Pompilius · Aug 15, 2006, 11:35 PM // 23:35

I was actually thinking a couple of days ago that a big guild should get their people together, and strike hard in AB late at night, when few people were playing. I wonder if that, together with the "momentum bonus", is what's happened.

Xenex Xclame · Aug 15, 2006, 11:50 PM // 23:50

Hmm, Aw lore you are right, everyone that read my post sorry for that,i forgot that you can not turn in the points.

Telling people to disregard the post is ok , and i dont think i should get offended by that, saying i have no idea about the game mechanic i do find offensive towards me, lets not get into an agruement,just wanted to let you know.

Terra Xin · Aug 15, 2006, 11:51 PM // 23:51

Situations like these hardly happen, when you start seeing the line moving closer into LLuxon or Kurzick territory, it becomes more difficult to maintain that line because the AB maps then favour the other side.

TheYellowKid · Aug 16, 2006, 01:29 AM // 01:29

its not doin that atm, from my count its been at kaanai for 9 hours as of this post... something seems to be wrong?

storm of daeth · Aug 16, 2006, 01:31 AM // 01:31

the battle line hasnt moved much since this morning so it staying at canyon is probably right.

Pjstaab · Aug 16, 2006, 04:39 AM // 04:39

Well in my alliance people have been saying they have been winning like every match. I'm in the TLC alliance in Ka guild.

Former Ruling · Aug 16, 2006, 05:25 AM // 05:25

As does a guy in my alliance. We are Luxon and he claims he has won about 4 outta every 5 matches today.

But remember, the Line is an overall thing...as you win yours, luxons might be losing 3 other matches.

Anyway, Like everyone said...Kurzicks have EXTREME advantage because of a Gate glitch in the map right now. They can leave their base before the timers up...and cap the stuff...GG.

Sereng Amaranth · Aug 16, 2006, 06:15 AM // 06:15

I left the base and started attacking their NPCs. I died and revived before the match actually started, lol.

Damaris Arcadian · Aug 16, 2006, 06:19 AM // 06:19

yeah.. I won about 3/5 matches I've played today... and I will hafta search and find the link again.. but I read in one of these forum things.. (I dont think it was Guru) that Kurzick guilds and alliances outrank Luxons by 13-1. The overal population of Kurzicks with all these.. 5k faction + a day guild farmers. I can see how luxons get pushed back. (and I'm luxon) And I'm gonna take a guess here.. but since Kurzicks have the territory at this time.. I will assume that more guilds will switch Kurzick just to be on the winning side..

Aug 15, 2006, 08:13 PM // 20:13	#1
storm of daeth Krytan Explorer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: somewhere Guild: Zealots Of Abaddon [ZOA] Profession: W/	what happened to the battle line? Over the period of last night (like 9 hours) the battle line shoved extremely far into luxon territory taking cities such as Eredon Terrace among others and is just getting farther. Is it possible for the kurzicks to win enough battles in 1 night to push it that far or is it just a glitch?

Aug 15, 2006, 10:05 PM // 22:05	#7
Xenex Xclame Desert Nomad Join Date: Mar 2006 Guild: DPX Profession: R/	Disregard this post as someone said, i saw that i was wrong :\| Last edited by Xenex Xclame; Aug 15, 2006 at 11:51 PM // 23:51..

Aug 15, 2006, 08:19 PM // 20:19	#2
TheYellowKid Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Feb 2006 Guild: Mina Sucks [Blz]	dunno, i played about 10 - 15 AB matches and lost 2 at Etneran so i was surprised to see we got pushed back further. Also at Kaanai the gates at the start have gaps where the kurzicks spawn so they can cap the shrine at the top plus once out they can head to the other shrines before the time is up.. My suspicions of a.net being kurzicks doesnt seem to be unfounded lol

Aug 15, 2006, 08:23 PM // 20:23	#3
Xx Invictus xX Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Canada Guild: MLV Profession: W/	i think giving kurzicks those shrines is intentional http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Kaanai_Canyon

Aug 15, 2006, 08:23 PM // 20:23	#4
Bane of Worlds Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Meadow Profession: Rt/	the whole line shift has caused a huge uproar in most Luxon towns and it's sickening to see the pointless arguements being thrown etc.. anyways it's odd that the shift was drastic

Aug 15, 2006, 08:26 PM // 20:26	#5
Numa Pompilius Grotto Attendant Join Date: May 2005 Location: At an Insit.. Intis... a house. Guild: Live Forever Or Die Trying [GLHF] Profession: W/Me	Wow, the entire south side of the map is taken, all the way to Seafarers Rest! The "momentum bonus" ANet implemented must be pretty significant!

Aug 15, 2006, 10:41 PM // 22:41	#8
storm of daeth Krytan Explorer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: somewhere Guild: Zealots Of Abaddon [ZOA] Profession: W/	so pretty much all the luxons need to do to to take bwack there territory si to farm kurzick and luxon points?.

Aug 15, 2006, 10:43 PM // 22:43	#9
AW Lore Jungle Guide Join Date: May 2006 Guild: Ancient Warriors Gaming Clan Profession: W/Mo	xenex, you cant earn or farm luxon faction if you are a kurzick guild, yes you can get luxon faction as an individual, but if your guild is kurzick allied you cannot give it to the faction transfer. reason why you see the towns owned by kurzick people is because they are now (for the moment) in kurzick territory. and yes the line has been moved due to the alliance battles.

Aug 15, 2006, 10:58 PM // 22:58	#10
TheYellowKid Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Feb 2006 Guild: Mina Sucks [Blz]	my point about those shrines at the top is that the gates dont work by the rez shrines and you can walk around them to cap the middle shrine before the gates open.. giving an advantage to the kurzicks

Aug 15, 2006, 11:35 PM // 23:35	#12
Numa Pompilius Grotto Attendant Join Date: May 2005 Location: At an Insit.. Intis... a house. Guild: Live Forever Or Die Trying [GLHF] Profession: W/Me	I was actually thinking a couple of days ago that a big guild should get their people together, and strike hard in AB late at night, when few people were playing. I wonder if that, together with the "momentum bonus", is what's happened.

Aug 15, 2006, 11:50 PM // 23:50	#13
Xenex Xclame Desert Nomad Join Date: Mar 2006 Guild: DPX Profession: R/	Hmm, Aw lore you are right, everyone that read my post sorry for that,i forgot that you can not turn in the points. Telling people to disregard the post is ok , and i dont think i should get offended by that, saying i have no idea about the game mechanic i do find offensive towards me, lets not get into an agruement,just wanted to let you know.

Aug 15, 2006, 11:51 PM // 23:51	#14
Terra Xin Furnace Stoker Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: New Zealand Profession: Me/R	Situations like these hardly happen, when you start seeing the line moving closer into LLuxon or Kurzick territory, it becomes more difficult to maintain that line because the AB maps then favour the other side.

Aug 16, 2006, 01:29 AM // 01:29	#15
TheYellowKid Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Feb 2006 Guild: Mina Sucks [Blz]	its not doin that atm, from my count its been at kaanai for 9 hours as of this post... something seems to be wrong?

Aug 16, 2006, 01:31 AM // 01:31	#16
storm of daeth Krytan Explorer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: somewhere Guild: Zealots Of Abaddon [ZOA] Profession: W/	the battle line hasnt moved much since this morning so it staying at canyon is probably right.

Aug 16, 2006, 04:39 AM // 04:39	#17
Pjstaab Academy Page Join Date: Jan 2006 Profession: R/Mo	Well in my alliance people have been saying they have been winning like every match. I'm in the TLC alliance in Ka guild.

Aug 16, 2006, 05:25 AM // 05:25	#18
Former Ruling Grotto Attendant Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Cedartown, Georgia Profession: R/	As does a guy in my alliance. We are Luxon and he claims he has won about 4 outta every 5 matches today. But remember, the Line is an overall thing...as you win yours, luxons might be losing 3 other matches. Anyway, Like everyone said...Kurzicks have EXTREME advantage because of a Gate glitch in the map right now. They can leave their base before the timers up...and cap the stuff...GG.

Aug 16, 2006, 06:15 AM // 06:15	#19
Sereng Amaranth Desert Nomad Join Date: Jun 2005 Guild: The Amazon Basin [AB]	I left the base and started attacking their NPCs. I died and revived before the match actually started, lol.

Aug 16, 2006, 06:19 AM // 06:19	#20
Damaris Arcadian Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Arizona Guild: Keepers of the Stars Profession: R/	yeah.. I won about 3/5 matches I've played today... and I will hafta search and find the link again.. but I read in one of these forum things.. (I dont think it was Guru) that Kurzick guilds and alliances outrank Luxons by 13-1. The overal population of Kurzicks with all these.. 5k faction + a day guild farmers. I can see how luxons get pushed back. (and I'm luxon) And I'm gonna take a guess here.. but since Kurzicks have the territory at this time.. I will assume that more guilds will switch Kurzick just to be on the winning side..